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Post by Vanilla2 on April 9th 2012, 4:36 am

No need to leave sweet green ginger, this is not the way to do it.

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Post by sweet green ginger on April 8th 2012, 6:30 pm

Hey Mia/laura ann/..../....etc, don't leave on my account, sounds like you will be sorely missed.

I'll go, I have apparently caused a few 'bad energy' moments on this site. And by the sounds of it, I am totally wrong with sunmystic's reading.

So stay....enjoy

btw, the histrionics just don't cut it, nor the reiterating what was not said, so in effect enforcing a position of right behaviour for sympathy, although it probably does work with others.
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Post by Spirit-Being on April 8th 2012, 2:25 pm

Vanilla said it, energy does change. Maybe we can blame the planetary alignments lol but whatever it is, it will pass. I am going through a little bit of heaviness which is the only way i can describe it, but it will pass i just need to do some reiki for myself and get grounded again. Connect with Nature Mia, as if i need to mention it, you are always very connected, take some deep breaths connect with your surroundings and everything will come into balance for you. We love you Mia Hugs

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Post by Vanilla2 on April 8th 2012, 11:00 am

Mia take a break, energy changes, whether bad or good.

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Post by Vanilla2 on April 8th 2012, 10:46 am

Mia what has happened?

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Post by sunmystic on April 8th 2012, 10:26 am

mia wrote:I have had enough ..... cant stay in this energy.
It has changed, not like it was.
I take the blame for some
Sorry people,

I still love you guys
You got my email addy Laura

One has to follow their heart. You are loved! sunmystic
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Post by mia on April 8th 2012, 10:21 am

I have had enough ..... cant stay in this energy.
It has changed, not like it was.
I take the blame for some
Sorry people,

I still love you guys
You got my email addy Laura

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Post by sunmystic on April 8th 2012, 10:20 am

A wealth of knowledge, hard fought and hard won. People that actually need help are like trying to save a drowning person. Trying to save a drowning person is very dangerous and tricky because they will take you with them, and if they do it is all your fault.

If I did have a lot of money my wife would be in charge of it and I would never actually know what is going on. The money would be for her anyway, she has worked hard over the years so that I could get my several PhD's at mystic school, so to speak. I will probably get a small inheritance and there will probably be some family conflict involved Smile my family is no different than most everybody elses.
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Post by laura ann on April 8th 2012, 10:12 am

this is my real name address and phone number.. look me up in a phone book.. look it up in a reverse phone book
call me I will talk to you
I have no secrets nor do I have any money to worry about identity theft.
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I hae an old computer or I would do skype so you could see me...
needless to say I am very very very upset at this time

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Post by laura ann on April 8th 2012, 10:06 am

Not that you manipulated the reading...that you manipulate others, in general, and are not forthright in your activities. Your gender, for instance.
I will not even begin to say how upset I am ...
I live alone and have for years because I dont like to be around people...
forthright .. I wear my heart on my sleeve most of the time
and gender.. I am a girl.. was born female..have birthed 3 children, have girl parts and have never ever ever had any surgery of any kind.
and most of all I did not in any way shape or form manipulate the reading... what I will admit is possible is I may have inadverdently translated meanings for each card that held the pattern of all the other readings.. it was not intentional but it is a possibility. The cards were chosen face down...and not changed from what was blindly chosen...
I do not know who you have connected to or who you beleive me to be but I am a simple almsot 61 year old female from WVa. I have not done what you say you believe I di d.. I would admit it if it was truth.. it is one of my character flaws.. I am honest to a fault no matter the consequences.

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Post by sweet green ginger on April 7th 2012, 8:05 pm

yes, it's true, I guess i am passive...not exactly aggressive, but hopefully more passive-assertive.



I just read it as I saw it - I don't go out of my way to cause problems...in general

Not that you manipulated the reading...that you manipulate others, in general, and are not forthright in your activities. Your gender, for instance.
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Post by laura ann on April 7th 2012, 6:47 pm

sweet green ginger)))))))))))I was hoping you would look at this as I have seen several of your intrpretaions and saw you had an amazing insight into things. thank you for looking at this one as well.
I almost sent you a pm asking you to please look at it as tarot is not my strongest suit....so needless to say I am tickled you jumped in the foray. lol.. thank you
I have to admit I do not understand this paragraph
The layout initially recoils in affront at the phrasing of the question. Like if someone answered, 'Wow, where did that come from, and immediately the questioner is cast with a shadow of something along the lines of, how would I describe it, almost disgust - but the question is accommodated and answered. Like how someone might try and tolerate a spoilt and ill considered individual. The individual posing the question, not sunmystic, is frantically searching for quick satisfaction/progress, and is careless of their own integrity. Integrity is a valuable resource in the scheme of things, but the questioner thinks they can manipulate, charade, and get out of fixes, because they are playing games with outward effects. So they think as long as they are pulling the wool over others' eyes they are fiine. However, the questioner is disregarding their interior, and ultimately tumult from one crisis to another, as they are forced to confront and just as quickly attempt to escape through frivolous meanderings.


it feels like you are saying I manipulated the reading in some way......and a lack of integrity.....

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Post by sweet green ginger on April 7th 2012, 6:28 pm

of course, an open input into tarot, dream or similar reading is irresistable to me...

Well now, ami ann, oops sorry, laura ann/mia, assuming that sunmystic actually wants to be perused in such a way, I shall add my input if I may.

By the cards that are drawn, sunmystic already has wealth in place - he has been onto this for a long time and it is steady and stable.

In the future, government reforms will go in his favour, to increase his security/assurety.

Also, he will be the recipient of a type of inheritance, but there will be contention over its divvying up.

The layout initially recoils in affront at the phrasing of the question. Like if someone answered, 'Wow, where did that come from, and immediately the questioner is cast with a shadow of something along the lines of, how would I describe it, almost disgust - but the question is accommodated and answered. Like how someone might try and tolerate a spoilt and ill considered individual. The individual posing the question, not sunmystic, is frantically searching for quick satisfaction/progress, and is careless of their own integrity. Integrity is a valuable resource in the scheme of things, but the questioner thinks they can manipulate, charade, and get out of fixes, because they are playing games with outward effects. So they think as long as they are pulling the wool over others' eyes they are fiine. However, the questioner is disregarding their interior, and ultimately tumult from one crisis to another, as they are forced to confront and just as quickly attempt to escape through frivolous meanderings.



Getting back to sunmystic, the inheritance issue, he will almost do without but persists over what he thinks would be the wishes of the person. Sunmystic, values love, sentiment and sharing over money, but he also has known that assured stability and ease is something worth working towards, and he has had his eye on this for a long time.


He innately knows that it is a worthy endeavour to put efforts into one's own financial independence and rightly sees this as an act of rightful participation in community and in worldly responsibility.
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Post by laura ann on April 7th 2012, 6:16 pm

Is it possible that I could become extremely wealthy just to fulfill this card
You already are extremely wealthy.... you have a wealth of knowledge more valuable then a dollar bill is.. you just havent realized it apparantly. Knowledge that has been carried down through the generations by you and too you.You have abilities people like me can only dream of ever attaining... as just a personal mentor you would leave and or give enormous gifts to others. Once again I think you need to look at writing a book or using a ghost writer to make one of your teachings. You have enormous knowledge of the universe and it's surprises and truths... tell them to someone or write them down...
and you are trying to mix together two different readings here...
one is from a mind and soul .. the other from a mindless souless piece of programming..
I am in no way saying my read is accurate but I am saying I would never ever take credence as truth from a computor random drop program.. just saying....
p.s I gave you my interpretation of each card .. not just random meanings of it..and it actually pretty much followed the pattern of the other 7 or 8 readings on the same question...
I actual believe a time lapse is needed before it is ever asked again so the end result may be different. No matter who or what you ask it to.
I do like the star interpretations it is a beautiful card to receive

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Post by mia on April 7th 2012, 5:39 pm

Perhaps you should stop worrying/thinking about wanting wealth and start believing you already have it.
It's called manifesting.
Cos saying you are waiting for it or you have never had it etc is negative.
Have you read The Secret?

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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 4:16 pm

Card two (computer) is also the Ten of Pentacles!

I may have to take that card seriously Smile

But, I don't have anything to pass on to anybody, that has to do with money.

Is it possible that I could become extremely wealthy just to fulfill this card? I have never in my life experienced the Ten of Pentacles (or the Nine of pentacles for that matter).
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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 3:54 pm

Card two (Laura), positive assistance:

Ten of Pentacles

A man, woman and child are stepping through the portal to the grounds
of a castle. Outside sits an elder in rich robes patterned with grapes,
petting one of two dogs. The old man, it appears, is passing on his
wealth to the next generation-the man and woman-and, though them, to the
generation after that in the form of the child. Thus we see both the
mundane use of the Pents (a beautiful home) and the spiritual use
(providing for others).


Crowley calls this card "The Lord of Wealth." This is a card about
having an abundance of something, so much so that you view it
differently than when it was a rarity. Note how the elder sits outside
while the couple and child are on their way in. The castle is nothing
new or special to him. He values, instead, his time outdoors with the
dogs, and takes enjoyment from how the castle delights the young couple
and the child. The elder is also the living version of the castle, as
rich and regal, and the card seeks to remind the viewer that as there is
value in the grand old castle, so there is value in the grand old man.
In meaning, this card is about a pinnacle in prosperity: a family home
bought and paid for, a business that can be passed onto one's children.
It can indicate someone's retirement, dealings with elderly relatives,
genealogy, or inheritances-large or small. It can be about antiques and
other old, valued things passed down through the generations.


On a simpler level, the card can indicate passing things on, like
removing all those old clothes cluttering up the closet and giving them
to the homeless, surrendering that collection of stuffed animals to a
children's hospital or clearing out books from the overflowing
bookshelves and handing them over to a local library. Though similar to
the Six of Pentacles, this is not so much about generosity as it is
about using your abundance (wealth) to leave a legacy. "You have too
much to enjoy," the card says. "Give it to those who can enjoy it."
This could also indicate volunteer work if you find yourself with too
much time on your hands.


The Ten of Pentacles is the Nine of Pentacles plus one. In the
Nine of Pentacles you had enough to indulge yourself. In the Ten of
Pentacles you have enough to indulge others, and so you complete the
suit spiritually as well as physically.
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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 3:52 pm

Ok Smile back to the drawing board!
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Post by laura ann on April 7th 2012, 3:51 pm

NOOOOOO 7 of pentacles... it was a ten

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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 3:50 pm

It is interesting how similar these two first cards are. Smile
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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 3:42 pm

The issue (Computer):
Seven of Pentacles

The story:
A farmer leans on his spade gazing at pentacles that grow on a bush
like fruit. He has done all the work, planted, planned, toiled. Now, all
he can do is wait. And wait he has, for so long that he's growing
impatient. He's beginning to doubt that the fruit on this tree will ever
be ready to harvest and sell.

In all four Sevens, the challenge presented cannot be won unless the
querent is determined to succeed and will not let himself give up. The
challenge in the solid, earthy Pents emphasizes this the most. Sometimes
called "Failure" this is a card where one's patience is beginning to
wear thin. You may be tempted to announce that it's all a failure and
walk away. Or, weary of waiting, you could make a mistake, assume that
the fruit is ripe when it's not.


This is an especially hard card (and challenge) for someone who
has been out of work for a while, or has been trying to get back their
health. They have to be told that, hard as it is, they must extend their
patience. They must also be careful to recognize real opportunity from
false opportunity. It's all too easy to act out of frustration, thinking
that doing anything is better than doing nothing.


But acting out of frustration can lead to failure. Real
opportunity is on its way. Hang in there and use all you've learned to
recognize it when you see it.


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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 3:38 pm

Cool! Smile
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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 3:36 pm

The Star part 2:
Basic Tarot Meaning


With Aquarius as its ruling sign, The Star is a card that looks
to the future. It does not predict any immediate or powerful change, but
it does predict hope and healing, even unexpected help to offer us
sustenance in bleak times.


Thus, the card says that there is aid and assistance out there to
help us though hard times, like organizations that offer food and
shelter in the wake of a terrible flood or fire. This assistance might,
to us, be a friend or counselor, an uplifting book or music, anything
that appears in our life and heals our wounded spirit. More, the card
tells us that we can achieve what we most want to achieve, like flood or
fire victims wanting to rebuild. This future, however, won't be growing
to full size overnight like Jack's Beanstalk. It will take time and we
must not lose sight of it.


This may seem like cold comfort. No one wants to hear that the
person they're interested is not interested in them, but will be in the
future. Or that they will not succeed today, but will later on in their
life. Still, it is there, a glimmer of light in the darkness. The
question is, do we feel it's worth waiting for or not?


That is the question the Star makes us ask ourselves: What do we
want bad enough that we will go the distance for it? The answer will
tell us as much about what we are as what we could be.



Thirteen's Observations


The Star is one of those cards that almost everyone loves. It is
often the most beautiful card in the deck and its image suggests the
peace and harmony of its meaning.


While this card offers hope and possibilities, however, the
reader must remember that these are in the distance. Only a time of
healing and peace, like the oasis of water before the Star, are in the
now. Like Aquarius, the card's vision is for tomorrow. This means that
if the querent is seeking love, a career, fame, wealth or even spiritual
enlightenment, they can only be told that it is a possibility. It is
not going to happen anytime soon. But if, like a ship navigating its
way, they keep the star in their sights, they will eventually reach that
other land they're seeking.


The Star offers no guarantees, of course, that the traveler won't
tire and give up or be lured in another direction. And there is no
telling what obstacles they'll encounter along the way. All the Star
promises is that a particular future can exist.


The Star offers peace and healing and a glimpse of the future. It
is up to the querent to decide if they are willing to go after that
future, no matter how long it may take them to get there.
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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 3:33 pm

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/meanings/

The issue (Laura):

The Star:
"
Basic Tarot Story


On the bleak landscape where the Tower stood, the Fool sits,
empty, despairing. He hoped to find direction on this spiritual journey,
a path to his spiritual self, but having just learned that most of his
life was a lie, he now feels lost. Sitting on the cold stones, he gazes
up at the night sky wishing for some kind of guide. And that is when he
notices, nearby, a beautiful girl with two water urns. As he watches,
she kneels by a pool of water illuminated with reflected starlight. She
empties the urns, one into the pool, one onto the thirsty ground.


"What are you doing," he asks her. She looks up at him, her eyes
twinkling like stars. "I am refilling this pool, so that those who are
thirsty may drink, and I am also watering the earth so that more fruit
trees will grow to feed those who are hungry." She nods back to a single
fruit tree that stands nearby, a nightingale singing amid its branches.


"Come," she invites. "Sate your hunger and quench your thirst."


The Fool plucks some fruit from the tree, then kneels by her and
drinks from the pool. The water tastes wonderful, like liquid starlight,
and the fruit is equally delicious. Both help to heal his wounded
heart.


Having quenched his thirst and sated his hunger, the Fool lays
back to gaze up at the stars. "They're so beautiful," he said, "but so
distant."


"Like possible futures," agrees the girl. "Cool and distant. Yet
if you keep one in sight, it can guide you to your destination no matter
how far away it is." Even as she says this, she began to fade away,
like dew, vanishing. All that remains is a gleam that was at the center
of her forehead. This rises up and up, until it settles in the night sky
as a shining star. "Follow your star," the woman's voice seems to sing
from that light, "and have hope."


The Fool takes in a breath and rises. It is a dark night, a
desolate land. But for the first time, he has a guiding light to show
him the way. Distant as it is, it restores his faith."


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Post by sunmystic on April 7th 2012, 2:36 pm

Thank you!
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