ABRAHAM and the APOSTLES and how they correlate to the chakras

Dear Laura,
How do you go about with researching these subjects ?
Have you an eidetic memory?
Stephen

Thanks

Dear Bill
It is interesting is it not.No getting away from this idea of an Adamic race.
Only problem I am not comfortable with is the somewhat elitist exclusiveness of it.
Or am I misunderstaning something.Which is always possible.Any ideas on this?
Regards
Stephen

Dear Laura and Bill
No disagreement at all.What concerned me was the idea that there seems to be a
ceiling beyond which only certain souls are allowed to pass.I can accept this is if the
Cosmos is in evolution and at some remote Omega point All comes together in order
to regenerate a new.
Souls are given an opportunity to renew themselves in a new and untried ways.
I see a Source constantly looking for novelty and renewal through individualization.

Before the Omega point
I feel all advanced souls can renew by merging together and reaching new thresholds of creative ability.
The Omega point is specially for allowing all individualized spirits to do this.The advanced souls of course can assistant in
all this and can take advantage to achieve new thresholds or levels of originality for the next Cosmos.
This is just a personal view point and may be completely wrong.
For me the idea of an adventurous Source willing to renew itself is more appealing than some static forever
type of cosmos.
I hope what I wrote is not too confusing
Regards
Steve

skfarblum wrote:Dear Bill
It is interesting is it not.No getting away from this idea of an Adamic race.
Only problem I am not comfortable with is the somewhat elitist exclusiveness of it.
Or am I misunderstaning something.Which is always possible.Any ideas on this?
Regards
Stephen

     ! The problem with being a part of that elite (which is real) is that it comes with more responsibility. God expects more from those that are of the seed of Adam than He does from those that are not of the seed of Adam. A lot of folks will disagree with me, but God made man twice and man made man twice. The first time God made man he made man and woman and they lived wild in the world that was watered by dew. The second time God made man He made man from the dirt, and the purpose of that man was to be the caretaker of the "Garden". Because the plants and animals in the "Garden" were the plants and animals of the field, they needed to be farmed, watered, and cared for. And because Eve was made from the rib of Adam she was a clone of Adam with the purpose of being co-caretaker of the "Garden". The rest of the world was watered by dew and self maintaining and the men and women that were living in this wild lived off of the land and they did not need to "work". And man made man twice. Through genetic manipulation the first time was the part animal and part human creatures who carried the genetics of the "sons of God" which eventually ended up in Northern Europe and became the foundation for the white race; the second time man created man he created the perfect worker which eventually moved into the area of today's China and ended up being the foundation for the population of China. Those that carry the genetics of Adam are the "elite" because they were designed for a special purpose by God Himself and their first ancestors had a close relationship with God in the "Garden" and outside of the "Garden". God the Creator has always considered Adam and the seed of Adam His special project, both in a religious sense and in a genetic sense and they are the "elite" which comes with more responsibility. 2013 sunmystic/john

scripture
To you has been given much... much is expected!

laura ann wrote:scripture
To you has been given much... much is expected!

     !  Genetically I am mostly what the ancient Greeks called a "Pan", so not much is expected of me   . I love that part! And to bring things back on topic. My chakra system is not the same as the original post.  My chakra system is of the Tree, the Earth, and the Goddess Mother. But I do thank though the seed of Adam for the gift of the worship of Father God the Creator. Because without the seed of Adam I would not know about the worship of Father God the Creator because the worship of Him is not in my genetics    and pretty much not in my soul history. john

laura ann wrote:scripture
To you has been given much... much is expected!

 Such a strange statement.Who has the expectations?

undefined wrote:
a female mind trying to process deeper male thinking

Female minds work at the speed of light.
Male minds at tortoise speed.(personal opinion)
Thanks for the complement though.It all helps
Yes I understand now.My natural inclination is always to include all and
never place one above the other.Even if the job demands 
special talents.Love to me is all in one and one in all.All are equally loved.
Regards
Stephen

Just a little thing on the concept behind the Omega point


Omega Point is a term coined by the French Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1881–1955) to describe a maximum level of complexity and consciousness towards which he believed the universe was evolving.

In this theory, developed by Teilhard in The Future of Man (1950), the universe is constantly developing towards higher levels of material complexity and consciousness, a theory of evolution that Teilhard called the Law of Complexity/Consciousness. For Teilhard, the universe can only move in the direction of more complexity and consciousness as if it is being drawn by a supreme point of complexity and consciousness.
I would place the spiritual planes or universes into this whole process.Also the Omega point fits somewhat into my idea that although God is immanent in His/Her creation.I have often felt He/She is working from in front of creation
just like the Omega point.
Just personal ideas.Happy to share.Take it as trivia.
Regards
Steve

To add an extra level to my last past.
Is it conceivable that chakras can be operative from some
future point?

makes sense but getting over my head without thinking hard on it .

like a Zero point separation
and where they juncture..

too much in head right now to break it all down..
so backing out of this one slowly as well.lol

Thanks.Just speculation

laura ann wrote:

And to bring things back on topic

my statement was not directed nor for the purpose of direct correlation to any member of this forum.

There is/was  no person singled out  by my post.

my words were about the prior mention of Adamic race and how God expected more of them..

it is  in no way an off topic post.

the scripture popped into my head....I felt it  may in some way be related to  these expectations.


Not one other post is about an individual here....but about history, genetics, apostles, chakras and possible individual attempts at understanding.

 Laura I was referring to myself not you. I apologize if I appeared to be finding fault with you. And nobody cares if somebody is off topic on this message board anyway, everybody is just happy that someone is just posting something. Laura I was trying to compliment you because I liked what you said, from there I was attempting to be witty about myself. Again I apologize. john

John)))))))))) no issue ..all is well
thanks for the compliment even if it did fly over my head and passed my ear..lol

thanks for taking the time to explain

skfarblum wrote:To add an extra level to my last past.
Is it conceivable that chakras can be operative from some
future point?

 Well, in the spirit of discussion, which may or may not have anything to do with what you are presenting   , there are certain logic realities where chakras can be operative from a future point. If one accepts the premise that the future is not set in stone and that the future can be changed or manipulated; and if one accepts the premise that a chakra is an energy nexus that creates and maintains a form and/or function; then in order for a future reality to happen a chakra has to form first to provide a foundation for the form and/or function of that future reality. An example of this would be "desire". Our true desires create an energy nexus (chakra) that our future realities form around to become manifested. So in that sense, in order for anything to happen an energy nexus or chakra has to precede it in time. And just for fun, if your desire creates an energy nexus that is a foundation for a future reality, and my desire creates an energy nexus that is a foundation for a future reality that is in conflict with your desire, then whoever has the strongest "will" maintains their energy nexus to create a future reality. john

laura ann wrote:John)))))))))) no issue ..all is well
thanks for the compliment  even if it did fly over my head and passed my ear..lol

thanks for taking  the time to explain

 Just love!

I like your explanation John.Nice thinking.
Thanks very much
Stephen

skfarblum wrote:I like your explanation John.Nice thinking.
Thanks very much
Stephen

 It also is the foundation principle for true witchcraft and sorcery if one is a master at it. john

sunmystic wrote:

skfarblum wrote:I like your explanation John.Nice thinking.
Thanks very much
Stephen

 It also is the foundation principle for true witchcraft and sorcery if one is a master at it. john

 In sorcery the energy nexus is fed by the "source" as guided by your "will". In witchcraft the energy nexus is fed by either you or a more powerful entity as guided by your "will".  john

For those viewers that might be interested in this, the key is that you have to create and maintain and feed the energy nexus in a "timeless" reality. If you can do this, then physical reality will manifest itself around the energy nexus. The reason that the energy nexus that is created by desire has to be created and maintained and fed in a "timeless" reality is because "time" creates resistance and this resistance either slows down or prevents physical reality from forming around the energy nexus. In simple words, "Everything in physical creation is a desire anchored in "timelessness." john